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What is the mathematical basis for the Ziegler-Nichols method for tuning a PID loop?

The Ziegler-Nichols method of tuning PID control loops has been around since the 1940's, and has been widely applied in many areas of engineering. I understand that it is really only a heuristic ...
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Transfer function for a quadcopter with linear velocity inputs

I found the control for a quadcopter using the angular velocities or thrust power as the input, but I need a model where I can set the initial and final position (for example, from (0,0,1) to (0,1,1))....
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Controls Project: Help needed finding 3rd order system

I'm in need of help finding a third-order or higher system in which I can derive a transfer function. We have a class project in which we need to find a real-life example of the system that equates to ...
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How do I get the closed-loop transfer function of the system, fitted with a PID controller, if the input valve has a transfer function?

How do I get the closed-loop transfer function of the system, fitted with a PID controller, if the input valve has a transfer function given by: $ \frac{Q(s)}{P(s)} = \frac{Kv}{(Tv*S+I)} $ Where Kv ...
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FOPDT model identification

So I'm trying to identify the model of a simple system (I'm pouring hot water (m [kg/s] into a water tank and displace the colder water inside) in order to tune a PID controller. I performed a doublet ...
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Basic question about PID controller

I am a novice in control systems and just learned about PID controller. So after watching tons of youtube videos I realized that the input of my plant is actually defined by the error. For the case ...
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Controlling temperature using PIDs on two separate controllers

I have a pellet smoker, and I am customizing it for tighter temperature control. Currently, I am controlling how much material is burning to control temperature using a PID loop. I want to achieve ...
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Limiting the integral to a time window in PID controller

Would it make sense to integrate e(t) from t - c to t instead of 0 to t for the integral part of the PID controller? What are the most common deviation from classic PID controller definition?
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Does the plant transfer function of a system change with variations in the reference variable?

I am designing a PID controller for a system that requires several step changes in the reference variable (concentration of solute in a tank) over a set period of time. I can find the plant transfer ...
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How does a digital controller's sampling period dictate the system's actuation requirements?

When selecting an actuator for a controls application - e.g. choosing a servo motor for a self-balancing robot - I understand that it's important for the actuators to have fast enough dynamics that ...
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Can i switch negative feedback to positive feedback in PID control?

I am learning Control Theory and i have a confusion about whether the following PID controllers are interchangeable or similar. Are they equivalent? Why? Is there any difference in how i would ...
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Is this a PID cascade control loop?

I'm working on a balancing robot. I'm familiar with the simple PID control loop but i can't understand this PID control loop. Is this actually a cascade control loop? The programming states that the ...
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Interpreting Nyquist plot

When implementing the control for my application I got this Nyquist plot which made me flabbergasted. If I zoom on the point $-1 + 0j$ I get the following image How do I interpret this contour going ...
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How to find Performance assessment (IAE and ISE) of a PID Controlled system?

The Integral Absolute value Error (IAE) and the Integral Squared Error (ISE) is to be analysed. A PID Controller is given as follows: ...
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How to input amplitude on a second order transfer function?

Please, I have a question that I believe it's simple to solve. I have some samples of readings from an accelerometer (unit: g) and I did a FFT (on MATLAB) on the vector generated from these samples ...
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Designing a PID Controller for Satellite Control

As an Aerospace Engineering Student, I have been trying to make a project of a PID Controller to control the attitude response of a satellite using the parameters from a project called Kufasat. The ...
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Do variables dimensions matter in PID simulation + I want the PID output to be volts?

I have a self balancing robot control loop that uses the PID controller. I feed the robot's angle (rad) to sum block that generates the error between the set point and the angle. The error then goes ...
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Derive a Transfer Function from first principles (PID, system identification, statics)

I want to derive a transfer function of my system so I can plug it into MATLAB and use the PID tuner tool. My system is a balancing beam with a motor on each end of the beam. My first principles ...
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How to tune PID for a step response

I am very much confused finding the time constant and DC gain for the below step response. The idea is to find PI gains for speed control and I am following this tutorial online Tutorial Link Motor ...
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Peak altitude control for rocket

I am trying to design a way for a model rocket to have an apogee of exactly 120 ft (or as close as possible). I am using a design similar to the split rudder of the space shuttle on the fins of the ...
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PID Controller Gain Estimation From Historic System Reponse Statistics?

What method for PID controller gain estimation, uses historic system response statistics, rather than experimental stimulation of the system, e.g. step response? This is applicable to putting costly ...
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How to design a transfer function for a Model Rocket?

I am building a roll stabilized model rocket. I am beginner at controls systems. How do I find out the transfer function of the rocket. Although, I am aware of definitions and stuff of control systems....
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What is a definitive discrete PID controller equation?

I need the equation of a discrete PID controller and I find different answers from different websites. For example, here the answer is: $$u[k] = u[k-1] + (K_p + K_i \frac{T_s}{2} + \frac{K_d}{T_s}) e[...
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PID control of a DC motor with PWM from Raspberry Pi - how to cross dead area?

I'm driving a DC motor (actually a linear actuator) with a Polulu motor controller from a Raspberry Pi. The motor drives if you ask for anything between 20 and 100% duty cycle, so there is a dead zone ...
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Equal proportional and derivative gains of PID

Is it common to take equal values for the proportional and derivative gains of a PID controller? if so what does it mean?
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Is the speed of a DC motor proportional to PWM?

I'm trying to control the speed of DC motor but unsure of the relationship between speed and PWM. I'm aware that the bigger the duty cycle, the larger the speed, but how exactly would this ...
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Proportional gain and Proportional band difference?

Im trying to learn from an example about the difference between proportional gain and band. Given a PID controller having a PB=20, integral time= 5s, derivative gain = 5s. How do i find out about the ...
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Is there a maximum phase margin a PID controller can give?

I'm having trouble understanding the plot attached. The bode plot here shows the bode plot of a plant to be controlled with PID. So, if I want a phase margin of 30 degrees at the bandwidth frequency, ...
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Control: control action of a PID controller with feedback

I'm programming the controller for a drone and I've got a question that may be basic, but I need to understand this perfectly to continue with the most interesting part of the project. The sensors of ...
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Books for learning PID control? [closed]

I am aiming to program a quadcopter flight controller as a personal project. To be able to do this I understand one of the fundamentals is a PID control system . So my question is does anyone have ...
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Programming a gas mass flow controller rig

I'm trying to upgrade a multiple gas flow controller, which must be capable of controlling the mass flowrates of three gases independently through one outlet line to our system, and am in need of a ...
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Can a PID controller have a simple on/off output?

The crux of a PID controller is:- output = Kp * error + Ki * integral + Kd * derivative So typically there is proportionality and a continuously varying (analogue) output. In the case of a simple ...
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The relationship between the I control and the stability margin

While I'm reading the paper, it said "The I control can makes the phase lag, so it can makes stability margin reduced." Words are not same as that, but the meaning is the same. How the I control ...
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what's wrong with this robust control scheme?

I'm learning how to control a double integrator with $H_\infty$. my model is simply $$\begin{gather} \dot{r} = v \\ \dot{v} = F/m \\ r(t_0) = 0\text{ m}, $v(t_0) = 0\text{ m/s}, m = 1000\text{ kg} \...
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How to control a multi input single output heating system?

I am trying to optimize the heat control of a test bench at our facility. The test bench is basically a pipe with an air flow that can be heated up to desired temperature. To heat the air flow up ...
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Negative gain in Ziegler-Nicholas Oscillation Method?

For a plant G(s), the transfer function is given by: $$G(s) = \frac{(10s+50)}{s(s^2+20s+2500)}$$ Using Ziegler-Nicholas method to get the parameter: $k_p = \dfrac{-1000}{3}$ and $w =-28.868j$. Is it ...
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Advantage of anti-windup

What is the definition of anti-windup? How does it impose the constraints? What are the advantages of MPC and anti-windup over each other? Does anti-windup guarantee the constraints or does it just ...
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How to control the level in multiple connected tanks at the same time?

In a coupled tanks system, what is the control strategy to simultaneously control the level in multiple tanks. In this case the actuators influence multiple control variables. The system is as shown ...
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Where should I start to be a control system engineer? [closed]

I am a telecommunication and network engineer working as a programmer and data analyst. One of my dreams was and still to be a control system engineer and to design and program a smart robots and ...
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How to control an underactuated platform with a single servo

What's the best way to control the following type of platform so that it remains balanced and upright? It's a box supported by a single leg that can pivot at the foot (F) and at the hip (H). The foot ...
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How does a closed loop control system actually work?

I'm currently taking classical control theory and have some questions regarding basic concepts related to closed loop systems. Let's say I have a simple servo motor controlled by an electric current....
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Are all motors controlled with G-Code?

So I have laser cutter. And I am thinking about buying a control unit (this one, to be exact). But my concern here is the following: If the input DXF file contains splines, they will be converted to ...
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What's a control system architecture that can track a ramping reference signal?

It's well-known that a control system with integral control can track a constant reference signal (command) with zero steady-state error. What is needed to generate a controller that can track a ...
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Tricks for controlling process with logaritmich characteristics over 20 orders of magnitude

I'm building a machine that operates over 20 orders of magnitude with logarithmic process characteristics. I have tried regular PID and also all sorts of variations of PID and did not get good results....
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PID Gain Calculation

A component of a control loop is approximated by the following relation between input $x$, and output, $y$: $y = 5x^2$ During normal operation, the value of input to this component ranges between $1$...
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Cascaded PID loop and parallel PID loop

What are cascaded and parallel PID loop and what are the differences between them. I searched on google and came across few websites but still i don't understand the the two types of control loops ?
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PID control for UAV [closed]

I'm working on a deltawing model airplane where I want to implement a PID controller to stabilize the pitch, roll and yaw (which are only controlled by two elevons). However, I don't know too much ...
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Layout of a controller for controlling a water pump

I'm currently writing a simulation environment in python/c for heat networks and got to the point where I'm implementing the controls for the environment. The PID controller is already implemented and ...
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PID tuning of a classic voltage controlled three-phase rectifier

I have a three-phase synchronous active rectifier I need to control it with a voltage oriented scheme like this: But I have no idea of how to tune multiple PIs, I'm trying to do it by trial but I ...
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How do elevators stop at the exact landing spot when reaching a particular floor?

The floor the elevator moves to, is controlled by the lift PLC with all the algorithms developed over the years, and that I understand well. What I am not able to understand is how does the lift stop ...