# How to simulate the contact between two distant parts in Ansys workbench？

I made a test in Ansys but the result doesn't seem to be the final steady state. The two bodies didn't touch each other. How can I get the right result?

• Is the fixed support (cylindrical roller) in the center supposed to remain in the centre during simulation/operation? I'll have a play later in ANSYS as this question interests me too. Commented Aug 24, 2015 at 8:00
• @pauloz1890 Yes, it is. This is a very simple static structural case. The roller doesn't move and the ring bears a downward force. Commented Aug 24, 2015 at 9:37
• I am no Ansys expert, but I suspect that the problem is one of numerical accuracy. FEM solvers are generally not used to solve large static displacement problems like this, so the numerical engines under the hood are tuned for a very different problem than you are trying to solve. I suspect that if you take away force B, you will still get a reasonable drift between the parts, but it will be in a completely random direction. Commented Aug 24, 2015 at 12:17
• @ChrisMueller ANSYS can definitely be used for large displacement problems if one takes the time to set it up as a non-linear analysis. For instance the displacement of a fishing rod wouldn't be well suited to a linear static analysis because it deflects so much. But ANSYS can still handle it via a non-linear analysis. I'm not sure this is the problem though as the contact could definitely be modeled in a better way. Commented Aug 24, 2015 at 14:36
• Is there a reason you can't bring the ring into contact with the roller at the start of the analysis? If the ring is unconstrained apart from the roller, there's no need for that big gap as the initial condition. The act of rigid motion won't cause any additional stress and it just adds more work for ANSYS to do. Commented Aug 24, 2015 at 17:43

Okay so I ended up having a play in ANSYS Mechanical Workbench. I did a mock up of your problem. Here's how I've been able to successfully model it. Note that a lot of my decisions are based on the Contact Best Practices Guide from ANSYS.

Here's some very important points given your problem but also for contact modelling in general and a frictionless contact type:

1. As stated by Trevor there's no need for such a large gap initially - you don't need ANSYS to simulate that sort of behaviour because it should be obvious. So move the roller closer to the ring. I ended up moving the roller within 1mm of the ring. Just doing this on its own, however, isn't enough to get it to converge.

2. Mesh $\rightarrow$ Advanced $\rightarrow$ Shape Checking $\rightarrow$ Aggressive Mechanical (This is generally a good idea for any contact modelling).

3. After selecting the contact type as frictionless look under Advanced $\rightarrow$ Formulation $\rightarrow$ Normal Lagrange. It has highest accuracy of all the methods, can handle large sliding and interference fit. If you use Augmented Lagrange with frictionless it's likely to diverge when the contact is over a small surface area like your problem. On the other hand if you were considering a bonded or no-separation contact type then Augmented Lagrange formulation seems to converge well.

4. Frictionless Contact $\rightarrow$ Advanced $\rightarrow$ Interface Treatment $\rightarrow$ Adjust to Touch (should be obvious why I chose this).

5. Frictionless Contact $\rightarrow$ Advanced $\rightarrow$ Pinball Region $\rightarrow$ Radius. Set the radius to be at least as large as the gap between the surfaces.

Below was the deflection result (left) and Von-Mises Stress result (right). As you can see the stress distribution is not great - around the contact area in the ring there are probably large stress concentrations. You might need a better mesh around the contact area as I spent hardly any time meshing. The main reason for this exercise was to prove that even though there is a gap between the contact surfaces there's appropriate controls in place to model it:

If you're expecting large deflections then you can turn ON "Large Deflection" in Analysis Settings $\rightarrow$ Solver Controls $\rightarrow$ Large Deflection. That might help it converge.

If you're wondering whether you could do this without moving the roller closer to the ring then you could probably play around with the Pinball Radius as well as another option called "Predict For Impact" in the Time Step Controls. I've never used this personally and I'm not sure what effect that would have.

If you have the time, read the best practices for contact modelling.

• This is very helpful. I am not an experienced user, so thank you sooo much for your timely help. Commented Aug 26, 2015 at 1:44

Unless you're trying to use ANSYS to validate common-sense/newtonian physics then start the analysis with them already touching.