# How much current is this phone drawing?

I know the current should be higher than 0.67 mA, because I know phones use current in the order of 1A. Also the charger is able to support up to 1A, it doesn't make sense that the charger would have such a superior current than the phone will draw.

I connected the multi-meter in series with the phone charger. That was done by stripping the red wire then cutting it, and then I held the 2 rods of the multi meter at both ends. The phone indicated that it was charging.

Since the phone indicated that it was charging and the battery was not full, I would take out the possibility that the phone disconnected the charger automatically. Also, I'm not sure about the idle state of the phone. The phone was turned on, and it has about a 3 inch screen. The battery is 1800 mAh. It still doesn't make sense that even in "idle" state it will draw such a small current while charging. Please let me know if I need to provide any more information about the measuring method, I didn't elaborate much on it because I thought it was simple, but I totally understand the possibility of a small mistake.

Here's another picture of the way of measurement, the reading is 0.45mA (from a different phone).

• is the battery charging? if not then a phone doesn't draw that much. May 23, 2015 at 20:05
• Could you show how your meter is attached to the charging circuit? If the meter is connected in parallel with the load, not in series, then it will be shorting the output of the charger, which likely protects itself by limiting its output. May 23, 2015 at 20:57
• I connected it in series. That was done by stripping the red wire then cutting it, and then I held the 2 rods of the multi meter at both ends. The phone indicated that it was charging. May 24, 2015 at 14:50

This answer is based on extra information provided by the OP in the form of a photo. The claimed currents were far too low due to a misunderstanding in how to read the meter's 10A range display.

The prior answer would have been correct if the information provided by the OP re currents being at sub-mA levels had been correct. As such it is useful to readers seeking to understand the implications if the supplied information had been correct.

A later suggested anonymous edit (August 2017) wrongly described what can be determined by measuring phone input current. Note that the OP includes battery charging current in his query re phone current draw.

The phone is drawing 670 mA

The meter is on the 10 Amp range.
This is because the 3 jacks at bottom are (probably) labelled some thing like
Common / 10 Amps / V Ohm mA
from left to right.
The Red lead is in the common socket and the black lead in the 10A socket.
This causes the meter to be on the 10A range even though the selector dial is set to 20 mA. Moving the dial may change the decimal point position but the input sockets are hard wired to the internal circuitry.

Note that the display reads "-".
This is either due to leads being swapped as above or possibly due to charger +ve entering meter on -ve lead.

The coloured ellipses on the photo highlight the points commented on above.

Investigate. Report back.

Subsequently provided photo confirming the meter connections.

If the meter is correctly connected between the charger and the phone then it will show the current that the phone as a whole is drawing. However, that does not mean that it necessarily shows the current that the phone's internal electronics are drawing.

It may not be obvious, but, current INTO the phone and current presently being used by the phone can easily be different. See below.

Because:

To attain reasonable battery life the power (actually voltage) applied to a LiIon / LiPo (Lithium Ion / Lithium Polymer) battery MUST be removed once the battery is fully charged. Leaving the charge voltagfe applied to the battery will substantially reduce its lifetime. So, once charged, a phone will disconnect charger from battery. What happens then is up to the designer.

• Phone may run from battery.

• Phone may run from charger.

• Phone may run from battery & charger combined.

If the phone runs wholly from battery (maybe at a few mA) the battery voltage will fall. when it reaches a predefined level the charger will "kick back in" and recharge the battery. While the battery is discharging the phone will input whatever current the designed has cased the charger front end to draw in those circumstances. I'd probably aim at much lower than 0.67 mA but that's a believable figure.

Phone direct from charger makes great sense but does not seem to be what is happening in your case. Phone from some mix - 0 mA or more could happen.

See below for likely minimum real world current draws.

Cellphone current draw covers an immensely wise range, with competent designers making significant efforts to minimise it where possible.

Best case I have seen phones with standby times quoted in weeks, maybe 2 or 3 in some cases, although this would be unusual.

A week is 168 hours long.
0.67 mA x 168 hours = 113 mAh
3 weeks at that rate = 339 mAh.

A battery capacity of
500 mAh = a very small cellphone battery
1000 mAh = typicaly non-"smart" phone.
500 mAh = typical smart-phone.

So it is unlikely that the phone always draws 0.67 mA
= over a month with even a 500 mAh battery)

However, even when in standby a phone will perform various functions periodically. These increase current drain. How much idle current a phone draws depends on peripherals activated, background tasks running and more.

So it is entirely possible that some of the time some phones draw that little current.

You need to tell us exactly how the charger is connected. A circuit diagram would be even better.

• Thanks for the thorough explanation about possible scenarios. Please check the information I added under "EDITED" in the question above. May 24, 2015 at 15:02
• I suggest to integrate your answers into a single one (merging this content into your accepted one, and then remove this). First, it looks sigificantly better, second, having multiple answers is reasonable only if you have really two, different answers to the same question (which is possible, but improbable). May 26, 2015 at 6:24
• @peterh Hoo? (nice Owl btw). If you read the two answers you'll see that the improbable here meets the actual. The first answer was a good one given the information provided.However, when the OP provided one more crucial piece of information it became obvious that the CORRECT answer was fundamentally different in nature. The first answer provides a solution based on electrical engineering considerations which would explain the 0.67 mA current draw. The 2nd answer addresses the use and misuse of instrumentation. Both answers are valuable as refernce information for future seekers ... May 26, 2015 at 7:41
• @peterh ... a major reason for the site existing, I'm told. To merge them is to dilute each one. The 1st answer in this case is wrong but a valuable guide to those who care about how such systems work. The second answer is correct but less valuable overall -> It can be summarised as "Put the meter leads in the correct sockets". || If you look at my Stack Exchange EE account you'll see I have 2000+ answers - in only a very very few cases do I submit 2 answers to a question - ie where it seems compellingly useful to do so. May 26, 2015 at 7:48
• If you believe that this answer is wrong technically PLEASE post a comment and I will check. Please do not make edits which change the technical statements made without first checking with me. Such claims have a good chance of being erroneous. BECAUSE appeal to authority :-). I will happily correct any demonstrated errors. Aug 26, 2017 at 12:01

It seems like the Monsoon Power Monitor might be the right tool for the job of determining current draw. This would give you very accurate current readings in real time.

• Is this the tool that you are referring to msoon.com/specifications. Can the tool measure nA Mar 8, 2021 at 23:42